tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1760552334873962879.post3001502056223495071..comments2024-03-26T22:24:54.457+00:00Comments on Beatles Songwriting Academy: Team Roles and the BeatlesMatt Blickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07532287235128200046noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1760552334873962879.post-48983221877201549422013-04-02T11:36:20.054+01:002013-04-02T11:36:20.054+01:00I've been through some of this kind of thing i...I've been through some of this kind of thing in churches mainly (weirdly) but never applied it to bands. With the Beatles the only thing I could add is that Lennon was clearly THE leader at the time of Hard Day's Night/Help and by Sgt Pepper/Magical Mystery Tour Lennon had abdicated to McCartney largely because of his extreme drug use. Who was leading by Abbey Road is anyone's guess!!! Matt Blickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07532287235128200046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1760552334873962879.post-12152447504067520182013-04-02T04:12:20.135+01:002013-04-02T04:12:20.135+01:00Actually, adding to the reply I just put, I've...Actually, adding to the reply I just put, I've realised that in a lot of ways I miss being in a band for that very reason - the fact that everyone had their own little niche that they took care of.<br /><br />From what I have heard through the grapevine by the way, all four of them could be temperamental and moody.Martin Quibellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18034685164852224771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1760552334873962879.post-29537498073019578222013-04-02T04:07:00.327+01:002013-04-02T04:07:00.327+01:00Another interesting take. Looking back, I've s...Another interesting take. Looking back, I've seen this (and the team roles) philosophy in action but hadn't realised it at the time with bands that I have been in. I think both of these have a basis in fact, and that is coming from someone who has been in bands.<br /><br />I wouldn't be surprised if Matt himself has seen this in bands that he has had the pleasure to be a part of or to have been in the company of?Martin Quibellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18034685164852224771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1760552334873962879.post-83152541015944686682013-04-01T20:26:24.887+01:002013-04-01T20:26:24.887+01:00Well, they’re identified as “Sanguine”, “Choleric”...Well, they’re identified as “Sanguine”, “Choleric”, “Melancholy”, and “Phlegmatic”. The names have their roots in the ancient Greek medical philosophy that people’s behavior is governed by the bodily ‘humors’, an idea which has been discredited, but the modern definitions retain the titles while taking the more plausible route of simply attributing the traits to the abstract concept of personality. Various scholars differ in describing the factors that make up each perceived type, but basically:<br /><br />Sanguine = sociable, charismatic, optimist<br />Choleric = strong-willed, leadership oriented, practical<br />Melancholy = introverted, perfectionist, moody<br />Phlegmatic = easygoing, diplomatic, reliable<br /><br />(A more thorough explanation can be found on Wikipedia, or here: http://fourtemperaments.com/Description.htm.) <br /><br />Like the “team roles” descriptions, no person is one single type, so ratios or “primary/secondary”(and maybe even tertiary) labels are used — similar to how Beatles fans divide individual songs by Lennon/McCartney contributions. Identifying temperament blends is where things get tricky. I consider Paul a Sanguine/Melancholy, with possibly a hint of Choleric; John a Choleric/Melancholy; George highly Melancholy with a Choleric dash of tenacity and will; and Ringo a Phlegmatic/Sanguine. Of course, not all of these labels seem to fit entirely, and like Tim, I am open to correction. It does appear that each Beatle’s predominant type was a different one from the rest, though. <br /><br />Anyway, that’s it in (a rather large) nutshell. I apologize for my long-windedness.Justicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10291076406032710946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1760552334873962879.post-45196441356936192702013-04-01T17:35:42.434+01:002013-04-01T17:35:42.434+01:00you're welcome
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sure!you're welcome <br />and <br />sure!Matt Blickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07532287235128200046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1760552334873962879.post-17769817475956817982013-04-01T15:53:13.065+01:002013-04-01T15:53:13.065+01:00Many thanks Matt for putting this up with such nic...Many thanks Matt for putting this up with such nice pictures. Perhaps another one further down the line?<br /><br />Many thanks<br />Tim.Tim Sheinmnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616383594798876839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1760552334873962879.post-84390719602118889062013-04-01T12:28:18.124+01:002013-04-01T12:28:18.124+01:00Interesting. What are the four temperaments and wh...Interesting. What are the four temperaments and who is which in the Beatles?Matt Blickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07532287235128200046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1760552334873962879.post-38039181572453131022013-04-01T02:06:42.924+01:002013-04-01T02:06:42.924+01:00Ditto what Martin said. Curiously enough, I develo...Ditto what Martin said. Curiously enough, I developed a somewhat similar theory several months back, in an attempt to explain why the Beatles worked so well together and were “four sides of a square” (as Paul put it), but my reasoning was based on the “Four Temperaments” concept in psychology rather than that of team roles. It’s encouraging to see someone else getting so analytical about such subjects; it makes me feel like less of an oddity. ;-)Justicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10291076406032710946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1760552334873962879.post-12558893271668608872013-03-30T02:38:18.742+00:002013-03-30T02:38:18.742+00:00Wow, what a fascinating read that was! :-)Wow, what a fascinating read that was! :-)Martin Quibellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18034685164852224771noreply@blogger.com